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  1. #1
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    Default Alarm System

    Hi there,

    We are about to take ownership of our Apartment in Cabo Roig. we have been advised to get an Alarm System.

    We have a quote from C.R.A.C. 24 - The total is 1273 Euros (Inc IVA)
    this is for 6 PIR sensors with a 110 Db Alarm.

    In addtion we can have a Radio Conatct to a Monitoring Station fro a Monthly Payment of 22 Euros (Inc IVA)

    A few questions - Are CRAC24 a good reliable company and does the price seem reasonable.


    Any other info would also be appreciated

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    Seems a lot and also 6 PIRs seem a lot also, usually 2 or 3 does it. You coudl try Direct Alarms, think they do it for about 500 euros and it is about 35 euros a month.

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    Dot & Steve - Thanks fro the info - I am better prepared now - Jim

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    I don't know much aboult Spanish standards for alarm systems but in the UK and Ireland if you want to relay to an approved alarm monitoring centre your system must incorporate dual verification - i.e. two different types of detectors must activate - e.g. a magnetic contact on the door and a PIR internal trap detection both must activate before the receiving centre informs Mr. Plod and the keyholder. This substantially reduces the likliehood of false alarms thus reducing the workload of Mr. Plod who should not have to answer false alarm calls.
    Any system with only PIRs would generally not be acceptable in teh UK or Ireland.
    Any alarm installer that is not certified as complying with EN 50131 should be regarded as dodgy.
    Most alarm systems relay a coded signal by digital communicator over a land line phone to the Alarm Receiving Centre. If the intruder cuts the phone line the alarm won't relay. A GSM back up system gets around this problem but costs extra.
    Remember an alarm only activates when the building has been or is just
    about to be broken into. Thieves can be in and out of a building in a couple of minutes and in that short period do a lot of damage and steal valuable property.
    You should bear this in mind and if you get an alarm make sure that it is only a back up for a good level of physical protections against unauthorised entry.
    As far as I am aware there is a Crime Prevention Guide on this website and I have a recollection of reading it some years ago. From memory it is an excellent guide which you should read before you decide the level of physical and alarm protection that you deem necessary.
    Neither alarm or physical protections should be guaged on price alone - quality is what is important.

    Rgds,

    Dermot Sheehy.

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    Dermot - extremely useful ...Jim

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    We have direct alarms - we bought the property off plan and the alarm installation was included in the build (San Jose) - Direct are very good (albeit a bit dearer) - we have had a few call outs incl several in the middle of the night due to power failures on the urb whilst we were on builders supply but since then its all be fine.

    I would agree you meed an dalarm and also chnage all of the locks when you take possesion as new houses are a target for the local petty criminals.

    Barry

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    Dear Diegohind,
    We used Aardvark Electrics,they are based not far from you,
    Tel. 609685132. Fax 966723654.
    Excellent after sales service,

    Regards

    Uncle Momo

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    I┤ve been working in the sector and would recommend Prosegur.
    You require a minimum of 3 sensors. and if possible use cable.
    While a wireless system is very nice because installation is easy etc. It is also less secure.
    The sensors do not detect movement, they detect temperature changes using infrared light. Cabled sensors detects movement AND temperature changes.
    Wireless are running on batteries. If the alarm company doesnt have a good aftersale service....
    Wireless are easier to tamper with, A frequency inhibitator are not expensive to buy and they are no bigger than a standard size brick.

    If you have the option of leasing the alarm vs buying it. I would choose lease. It doesnt cost much more montly (perhaps a few euros) but you get a much better service.

    CRAC is not a company that I would recommend. They are really expensive and don┤t comply to spanish norms and laws.

    Securitas Direct has a good operation but their alarms and aftersales service leaves much to desire.

    Prosegur gives you a very good service, many differnt options as you get your alarm tailormade. they are howver not the cheapest.

    The absolutly best firm for home users is Securitas Response (NOTE: NOT direct)
    They are state of the art. Best equipment, best service. However they are not cheap.

    Hope you found it useful

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    Default Nalle - Many thanks I think I will get a quote from Prosegur

    Out of interest who do you have your alam system with - ?

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    with prosegur myself
    msg me and I'll give you the phonenumber

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