Legal English Tv Channels

[harveydog]

Hi

The sky and english channels transmitted by anyone other than straight from the astra satellite are totally illegal. they are a re/transmitted signal which is not allowed by law. It is copy right issue and BBC and ITV do not allow re/transmitted signals. If you pick up the channels from Astra then this is a cross border signal that anyone can view with the right equipment.
Therefore if you install the right dish and equipment then communities and blocks of apartments can do the same .


We are at present installing a communal TV system in The Costa Blanca area with a 2.4m dish directed at the Astra satellite and cabling aprox 40 houses to the system which is totally legal and free to air.

If you live in a communal or urbanisation the same can be done for all your residents and holiday makers.

Martin or Filipe
679792949

[JulieN]

V. interesting article in today's Euro Weekly paper about TV and Telmicro. They have it recorded from BSkyB, BBC and ITC that NO COMPANY has the right to re broadcast their channels in Spain. NO COMPANY. If you can pick them up, fair enough. I am one of those who cannot afford to keep wasting money which is why I am content with what my second hand dish will pick up now.

[Chrisdee]

Hi

The sky and english channels transmitted by anyone other than straight from the astra satellite are totally illegal. they are a re/transmitted signal which is not allowed by law. It is copy right issue and BBC and ITV do not allow re/transmitted signals. If you pick up the channels from Astra then this is a cross border signal that anyone can view with the right equipment.
Therefore if you install the right dish and equipment then communities and blocks of apartments can do the same .


We are at present installing a communal TV system in The Costa Blanca area with a 2.4m dish directed at the Astra satellite and cabling aprox 40 houses to the system which is totally legal and free to air.

If you live in a communal or urbanisation the same can be done for all your residents and holiday makers.

Martin or Filipe
679792949

I've read the terms and conditions of Freesat and apparently its only free to households in the UK that have paid for a UK television licence, so although you can pick it up it must still be illegal ?? Yes it can be done but it doesn't make it legal.

[RickT]

If you are picking up the signal directly then you do not have a contract with Freesat so it doesn't matter a toss what their terms and conditions are. So in what way is it illegal?

[Chrisdee]

If you are picking up the signal directly then you do not have a contract with Freesat so it doesn't matter a toss what their terms and conditions are. So in what way is it illegal?

You need a card don't you? If you do, where is that coming from? I just want to ensure that what I get is legal that's all.

[Nalle]

I've read the terms and conditions of Freesat and apparently its only free to households in the UK that have paid for a UK television licence, so although you can pick it up it must still be illegal ?? Yes it can be done but it doesn't make it legal.

Actually it does. in a lot of countries you can pick up television signals from neigboring countries becasue obviously radio waves doesnt understand the concept of national borders. Just because you can recieve it doesnt make it illegal.

Imagine a concert being played in Torrevieja Bullring. If you live next door. you can still hear it but you havent payed any entrance fee. Deosnt mean that you are not allowed to listen too.

In the case of Sky. Yes you are violating the user agreement, but thats it. you are not breaking any law. as long as you use it for private use that is

[bombero]

You need a card don't you? If you do, where is that coming from? I just want to ensure that what I get is legal that's all.

If you have got a dish and reciever you can get all the freesat chanels except ch 5 and some others without a card, the card only gives you certain other chanels and the chance to subscribe to pay per view and some pay chanels.
So if you dont need a card there is no contract.

This quote is taken from the official Freesat Web site F.A.Q

Can I receive freesat outside the UK?

freesat is run as a UK service for television viewers in the UK. The broadcast signal is focused onto the UK, and freesat equipment is only sold in the UK and requires a UK postcode to install. However, it may be possible outside the UK to use a satellite receiver to pick up channels available on freesat. We recommend you take advice from a specialist satellite retailer or installer.


I have contacted Freesat and asked the following question

in your faq section it says "However, it may be possible outside the UK to use a satellite receiver to pick up channels available on freesat. We recommend you take advice from a specialist satellite retailer or installer."
If i have sutable equipment and can pick up these signals will i be breaking the law by watching them?

I will post their reply when i recieve it.

[Chrisdee]

I just want to be 110% sure of getting the right equipment and not be cut off. If I get a dish will they change the footprint blah blah blah, oh bloody hell I just don't want to waste 300 - 1200 euros. Just think how many pairs of shoes that is!
I'm off soon and not back until mid Nov so hopefully things would have sorted themselves out by then and I can decide just what to do.
Thanks everybody. Have a nice evening X

[bombero]

I've read the terms and conditions of Freesat and apparently its only free to households in the UK that have paid for a UK television licence, so although you can pick it up it must still be illegal ?? Yes it can be done but it doesn't make it legal.

I just checked on freesats website and they mention tv licence as follows

What is the policy for freesat to be viewed in a public place? i.e pub, restaurant etc.

There is no contract and no subscription with freesat which makes freesat a great option for public places. There are no restrictions on using freesat in public places, but venues do need to be covered by a valid TV licence.

Presumably because they are in the uk and require a tv licence to recieve bbc broadcasts.

[bombero]

Freesat Is Legal In Spain

This is the reply to my question from FREESAT.

Thank you for contacting freesat. Your FAQ has been answered.

Question:
in your faq section it says "However, it may be possible outside the UK to use a satellite receiver to pick up channels available on freesat. We recommend you take advice from a specialist satellite retailer or installer."
If i have sutable equipment and can pick up these signals will i be breaking the law by watching them?

Regards
Martin


Answer:

There are no legal reasons why you should not receive freesat outside the UK. It is that it may not be possible due to the tight footprint of the signal.

Thanks for your query,

The freesat team
http://www.freesat.co.uk

We hope this answers your question. If you need more help please call us on 0845 313 0052 or ask us a new question by clicking on the following link and one of our team will get back to you:

http://freesat.co.uk/index.php?page=help.NewTicket

[Mikea]

It would appear that they have a 'change of opinion'and 'policy' depending who responds...see the following also received from Freesat.

"From: "Freesat" <noreply@freesat.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:03 PM
To:
Subject: freesat FAQ Answered: Freesat in Spain

>
> Thank you for contacting freesat. Your FAQ has been answered.
>
> Question:
> Aside from any technical difficulties associated with reception of Freesat
> services in Spain. What are the legal ramifications, if any, regarding
> using the service outside of the georaphic area designated for content
> licenses?
>
> Answer:
>
> It is the case that you need a UK TV licence to view UK channels.
>
> Thanks for your query,
>
> The freesat team
> freesat - Home
>
> We hope this answers your question. If you need more help please call us
> on 0845 313 0052 or ask us a new question by clicking on the following
> link and one of our team will get back to you:"

I suspect therefore that there is no clear policy in place at this time???

[prf]

In most large organisations if you ask the same question of a different person you get a different answer

Surely the need for a TV licence is a requirement of UK law, applicable to anyone watching TV in the UK (In the UK the need for a licence also applies to watching Satellite TV from abroad, so it is the fact that you are in watching in the UK, not where the broadcast comes from)

I do not believe that the need for a TV licence is applicable to anyone watching in Spain. If it is, who is going to apply this? Spanish Police asking to see your UK TV licence?

Pat

[Nalle]

In most large organisations if you ask the same question of a different person you get a different answer

Surely the need for a TV licence is a requirement of UK law, applicable to anyone watching TV in the UK (In the UK the need for a licence also applies to watching Satellite TV from abroad, so it is the fact that you are in watching in the UK, not where the broadcast comes from)

I do not believe that the need for a TV licence is applicable to anyone watching in Spain. If it is, who is going to apply this? Spanish Police asking to see your UK TV licence?

Pat

The name itself is a give away. UK License... Hence only valid and required in the UK.

The TV license is for owning a TV, not for watching it. Spanish law doesnt require a TV license.

[Chrisdee]

The name itself is a give away. UK License... Hence only valid and required in the UK.

The TV license is for owning a TV, not for watching it. Spanish law doesnt require a TV license.

Nalle, what you doing, I rely on you and you've let me down on this one.
You don't need a licence for owning a TV you do need one if you watch it.
(Only UK I know)

You need a TV Licence to use any television receiving equipment such as a TV set, digital box, DVD or video recorder, PC, laptop or mobile phone to watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV.

If you use a digital box with a hi-fi system or another device that can only be used to produce sounds and can't display TV programmes, and you don't install or use any other TV receiving equipment, you don't need a TV Licence.

[Mikea]

Sorry, I think my point was that any question fired by email to Freesat receives one of a stock number of replies...It's pot luck which one you receive!